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Barrie



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Location: Gibsons, BC, Canada

PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:41 am    Post subject: Boat memories Reply with quote

I was just chatting online to an ex-RAF pal in NZ, whom I'll be visiting in October. (I'm ex-army but he's long since forgiven me for that). He mentioned that there's a Short Solent in Auckland's TOTAT Museum, which will be a must for me to visit. I've flown many times in float planes - mostly Beavers, single and twin Otters - since arriving in Canada in 1968, but to my lasting regretnever in a passenger-carrying flying boat.
In 1981, however, I did manage to talk myself into a flip in one of Forest Industry Flying Tankers' Martin Mars boats, then operating out of Sproat lake on Vancouver Island. That was a memorable experience. At that time, FIFT had four Mars, deployed on fighting forest fires. I think they're now down to one and even its future seems uncertain. My brother, however, was a steward on BOAC's boats operating out of Poole Harbour in and around 1947/48. The closest I ever got to one of these beautiful aircraft was when the troopship that had brought me from Southampton to Singapore in December/January 1953 was beaten up by a Sunderland in Keppel Harbour. I'm not sure what my late brother Gordon flew on for BOAC - I always assumed they were Princess or Empire class. Now I learn that BOAC also operated Solents. In any event my interest in aviation of all kinds stayed with me and from 1973 to 1980 I was a senior public affairs manager for Air Canada, both in Vancouver and in Montreal.
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Barrie



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Location: Gibsons, BC, Canada

PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 1:57 am    Post subject: Boat memories Reply with quote

I've no doubt all the flying boat experts on this site have already twigged this - but just in case, there's a Martin Mars website at
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What used to be Forest Industry Flying Tankers is now owned by Coulson Flying Tankers, still operating out of Sproat Lake, near Port Alberni on Vancouver Island.
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Barrie



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:59 pm    Post subject: Not too many FB fans around, it seems Reply with quote

There's nothing so lonesome
Nor morbid nor drear,
Than to post on a board when there's nobody here.
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Nick
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Barrie,
The Martin Mars looks fabulous but the thought of suddenly picking up tons of water for fire fighting must be scary!

Poole Flying Boats Celebration would be very interested in any information that your family may have about BOAC and Poole. We can also check our extensive archives for references to your brother.

Nick
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Barrie



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Location: Gibsons, BC, Canada

PostPosted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nick wrote:
Hi Barrie,
The Martin Mars looks fabulous but the thought of suddenly picking up tons of water for fire fighting must be scary!

Poole Flying Boats Celebration would be very interested in any information that your family may have about BOAC and Poole. We can also check our extensive archives for references to your brother.

Nick


Hi Nick: I don't have to much info on my late brother, save that he was a steward and I think leter (he was ex-Royal Signals) a wireless op operating out of Poole in or around 1946-48. He later went on to become a honcho with Hawker Siddeley in the Middle East as as an AMIEE. His name was Gordon Stuart Wall, DOB October 22, 1927. As I recall. he was flying Poole-Lisbon-Karachi and on to the Far Easr, with all statioins between. From memory, they had a four-day lay-over in each slip station, while awaiting the next scheduled aircraft. Sounded like a wonderful job to me!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barrie wrote:
I don't have to much info on my late brother,


We are checking with our archivist, so there may be something about your brother.


Nick
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nick wrote:
Barrie wrote:
I don't have to much info on my late brother,


We are checking with our archivist, so there may be something about your brother.


Aimee has found this information in our archives -



"There is a G.S.Wall ( Steward) in a list of names & posts which
I have been adding to over the last 2/3 years, under a database
titled ‘BOAC Towards 600’ ie a staffing directory for BOAC Poole
1940 to 1948…there is however just this name in the long listing !

However, there is reference in Captain’s manifest Voyage Report
of Capt. Lewis Harold Carey dating from 26/27/27/28/28th. June 1947
from Hythe Class G-AGIA Haslemere … Karachi heading to Poole
(3 A4 pages of handwritten notes) with Commander - Capt. Carey;
First Officer - Lovelace; N/O - Hill; E/O – Mansell; R/O - Griffiths;
Steward - Male (that is his name not a jotting ) and C/App - Walls…

This might well be a Catering Apprentice, then Steward G.S. Wall -
as Capt. Carey didn’t have this C/App elsetimes with his usual crew."


Hope you find that of interest.

Nick
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Barrie



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 4:30 am    Post subject: My Brother Reply with quote

Thanks Nick and Aimee. G. S. Wall would certainly be my brother. Hythe class, eh? I never knew that. Any idea how long a hop Karichi-Poole would be - and how many station stops in between?
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Barrie



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 6:36 am    Post subject: My brother Gordon Reply with quote

Is there any chance those four A4 pages could be scanned and emailed or faxed to me? I rarely saw my brother after that. I joined the army (also Royal Sigs) in 1951, served in Germany, Malaya and Middle East at time of 1956 Suez crisis and then we sort of drifted out of one another's lives. I finally heard in the '70s that he'd died in Dubai (nine years after his death), at which time I believe he held a senior engineering position with Hawker Siddeley. Let me know if faxing's a possibility and I'll PM with the number. Perhaps email would be simpler. Thanks
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 7:31 pm    Post subject: Re: My brother Gordon Reply with quote

Barrie wrote:
Is there any chance those four A4 pages could be scanned and emailed or faxed to me?


Hi Barrie,

I'm involved in another project for a week, please PM me your Email address.

Nick
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